Raw Talk From Behind the Pass

Kitchens vs. Relationships: Who Waits for a Cook Who’s Never There?

November 1, 2026

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Get ready for stories that smell of sweat, butter, and burned fingers. Conversations about the beauty and brutality of restaurant culture, the quiet rules, and the loud disasters.

Phil & Eric

Two chefs who've worked in some of the world's most mythical kitchens. Mugaritz, Fäviken, RyuGin. Now they sit down to share their experiences, techniques and favorite recipes.

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